Date: 2005-09-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shellaby.livejournal.com
It's kind of like the UN people in Africa not giving girls food rations until they have sex with them. It's nice to know that the most terrible of situations reveal the best and most noble in us, as well as the most awful and disgusting in us. I'd like to focus on the positive side of the equation, but it's hard.

Date: 2005-09-08 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ich-liebe-musik.livejournal.com
This sickens me to no extent.

Date: 2005-09-09 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavyarms.livejournal.com
Cheer up - there are good things happening in the middle of the disaster, too. Did you hear about the wedding in the homeless shelter? A couple decided that they had planned to get married, and by golly, they were going to get married.

Date: 2005-09-09 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meranthi.livejournal.com
That's awesome! My doctor was going to get married in New Orleans in two months, which is not happening now. Hopefully, she gets things worked out.

Date: 2005-09-09 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavyarms.livejournal.com
Hopefully they'll get stuff worked out that doesn't involve a ceremony in a homeless shelter! :)

Date: 2005-09-08 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cycon.livejournal.com
Good ol' American Values.

Date: 2005-09-09 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavyarms.livejournal.com
Well, see [livejournal.com profile] shellaby's comment above. I don't think Americans have a monopoly on being assholes.

Date: 2005-09-08 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mixedborder.livejournal.com
That makes me want to vomit.

Date: 2005-09-08 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osirusbrisbane.livejournal.com
It's depressing stories like this why I don't bother staying abreast of current events.

Date: 2005-09-09 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavyarms.livejournal.com
Sometimes I don't bother either, for the same reason...but don't you think it's important to bear witness?

Date: 2005-09-09 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethicsgradient.livejournal.com
Please allow me to respectfully disagree. You must nourish and fortify yourself for comedic endeavors by suckling at the teat of news outlets, seeking the most awful stories of idiots and assfaces acting like the boobs that they are. To cleave yourself from current events is to leave yourself with no foundation on which to base your budding career as a humorist. And that would truly be a shame.

Not to interrupt the mood...

Date: 2005-09-09 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magdalene1.livejournal.com
Um, isn't that from The Onion?

Re: Not to interrupt the mood...

Date: 2005-09-09 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavyarms.livejournal.com
Er, I don't think so. I didn't find it in The Onion's Katrina coverage, anyways (although many of their articles were painfully too close to true to be side-splitting.)

It is yahoo news, but I think it's valid.

Re: Not to interrupt the mood...

Date: 2005-09-09 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethicsgradient.livejournal.com
Hrm, can't find anything in google news about it, but it's hard to know what to search for....

Re: Not to interrupt the mood...

Date: 2005-09-09 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethicsgradient.livejournal.com
news.google.com search for "Ged Scott" or the more satisfying "show us what you've got" will get some more references to this....it's not terrifically widespread, but it is out there.

Re: Not to interrupt the mood...

Date: 2005-09-09 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ok, I know I wasn't hallucinating - it's the photo caption of the main story, here: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40305

Date: 2005-09-10 04:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You ever ever ever stop to think that since they usually take women and children first... and the men stay behind for a while and be all heroic that maybe they were making them lift their shirts to make sure they really were female.
I don't agree with it anymore than any of you do... and it's not justifiable but maybe they had a good reason.

Date: 2005-09-10 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavyarms.livejournal.com
Because...men...deserve to be rescued less than women...so if they were men, then they shouldn't have been rescued?

That's the most screwed up logic I ever heard.

Also, considering the mass chaos surrounding the Katrina evacuation, I don't think women and children were exactly evacuated first. I didn't hear a lot of stories of men "being all heroic by staying behind." People tried to stick together with their families and look after each other. This wasn't a sinking ship, it was a city. I'm pretty sure that the rescuers rescued whoever they found.

And if the news story is true (see above thread re: Onion) then I think that no, there is no good reason that you could come up with for that sort of action.

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